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Old 03-08-2010, 01:33 PM
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Chelation therapy only works if you have a specific reactive agent going for a specific heavy metal. You need to be diagnosed. Treating somebody for heavy metal poisoning without a specific diagnosis is your first sign it would be fraudulent. It does work in rare cases. There isn't enough science to definitively claim it works in more than a minority of cases.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:41 PM
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How many of us were taught to wet your finger to smooth a caulk joint. We all did at our shop, until one day at lunch when I was reading the warning label out loud from a tube of Vulchem Seal " continuous contact with the skin and mucous membranes has been known to cause serious brain and nervous system damage " Everybody started wondering and that practice stopped. We also soldered galv and lead flashings. How much of that went into our lungs or was absorbed into our skin? Kinda late now, but we can warn the younger guys.
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:08 AM
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How many of us were taught to wet your finger to smooth a caulk joint. We all did at our shop, until one day at lunch when I was reading the warning label out loud from a tube of Vulchem Seal " continuous contact with the skin and mucous membranes has been known to cause serious brain and nervous system damage " Everybody started wondering and that practice stopped. We also soldered galv and lead flashings. How much of that went into our lungs or was absorbed into our skin? Kinda late now, but we can warn the younger guys.
There a lot of things we did and now regret it. I don't know how many boilers we demo'd for either boiler replacement or forced air install....but the "spray bottle" really doesn't cut it like we were lead to believe...
Then again, remember the days before the reclaimer...

You live and learn or you live and die. There is so much more information out today that there is really no reason for anyone to be do those things anymore.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:33 AM
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Well hopefully I have not become a victim of our trade. I've been struggling for some years with shortness of breath, not extreme but annoying and the docs kept calling it asthma. Well 4 weeks back I had sharp chest pains on my way in to work and pulled into the E.R. long story short they did a cat scan of my lungs and think its a type of Chronic pneumonia, Eosinophilia Pneumonia which is caused by an allergic reaction to something and white blood cells clump up your lungs.

My question is...one of the irritants mentioned was nickle. All we use is Stainless. Is it possible to get nickle poisoning from handling stainless all the time? I know they say the nickle is bound up pretty tightly but...and will soldering get the metal hot enough to release nickle? Welding will but...thanks.

Going back to the doc Tuesday to see where we go from here.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:29 PM
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So what did you find out at the dr.'s today? I'm curious on this myself. I get alot of exposure in our shop.
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:18 PM
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Well I got another presrciption of Prednisone which seems to make me feel great until it runs out then the symptons return. So its off to a pulmanary specialist next Thursday and probably a lung biopsy to finalize a diagnosis and figure out whats causing it. I want to email Alleghaney and talk with their metalurgist but I haven't had time yet. Thanks!
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:11 PM
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I was under the impression that Zinc was easily disposed of by your body, which uses plenty of it anyways. Naturally too much of anything is bad, but Zinc exposure is a pretty daily thing. All your multi-vitamins have a dose of it, and everything from the nickel on up in your coin jar has a fair amount of it. Loose change is something everybody in the population handles daily, and you know how much that gets worn and how a handful has a metallic stink to it because of the residue it will leave on your hands, which we then promptly use to eat the hot dogs and burgers they purchased without a second thought.

I'm likely wrong, but I've always been under the impression that Zinc is one of the basic minerals your body needs, and that a saturation of it wouldn't cause any lasting effect. I've had metal fume fever bad enough to put me out of work for 2 days from welding galvanized so I know it isn't great either.

Solder is a different story entirely. I've heard that insurance companies will adjust their premiums quite noticeably if you tell them you work with solder on a regular basis. That should tell everyone something.
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:53 AM
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Default Heavy Metal Poisoning

I can remember a pipe co I worked at years ago, ( they made culvert pipe ),always kept a fridge full of milk for the welders. I was told it was to keep you from getting sick when they had a lot of galv fittings to weld.

On a lighter note, I like to think that Sheetmetal Workers just have a magnetic personality. Hey we're all gonna die sometime. I feel that I have been in the best trade there is and worked with some of the best minds in the world. My life is fuller because I was able to be A Sheetmetal Worker.
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:13 PM
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ok saw the Pulmonary guy yesterday. This Chronic Eosinophilic Pneumonia is what he figures is the problem. His plan is to double the Prednisone dose for a week combined with a strong antibiotic. Followed by Prednisone... If in a month another CT scan shows that my lungs aren't clear then I have to do a lung biopsy the hard way..., the surgical type to see what's causing the pneumonia. The doc spent 45 plus minutes taking my history! He seems to think that this is most likely work related. So we'll see.

I'd say take care with your breathing, and handling habits, wear gloves... but as he said yesterday this can be caused by some allergine (sp) you were exposed to years ago.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:43 AM
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rothalion, good luck to you. I think here in the last few years, many new ailments are starting to show their ugly heads. I was the first in our area to have Upper Epiconilitus where the elbow is literally pulling itself apart and the gel in the joint disintegrates. My doc said my forearms were over-developed from using hand snips on heavy guage metal. Now many more guys are showing signs of Carpal Tunnel and elbow problems. Also breathing problems like you are experiencing. I know you have to look out for yourself, either the companies have too little or too many rules. if you can't do the work, they will toss you and get someone who can. I waited till I couldn't close my hand before I went for help, wish I would have gone sooner. I loved my work and didn't want to give up
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