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Old 02-04-2009, 06:13 PM
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We have a cybermation plasma unit and i was informed that if i hooked up a refridgeration dryer device to the air line, that it would improve my tip life by about 60%. I was wondering if anyone has heard of this or has it and does it work? The main thing is I just want to make sure it wont mess up my machine at all. Thanks!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:28 PM
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Our controls dept. has removed a couple of these units from buildings that had pneumatic controls. Now, these control systems don't use a very high volume of air like I am using on my Kaliburn SR-45i( http://www.kaliburn.net/products/sr-45i/ ), but I haven't noticed any difference in consumables' performance. I do use a desiccant dryer in-line ( http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/5Z611 ) that makes a HUGE difference in consumables life. The desiccant that goes in the bowl is expensive, so it gets re-dried and re-used many times by a box I built about 12X12X12 with a pan in the top. I cut all but about an inch out of the bottom of the pan and spot welded a piece of screen into it. Then cut two holes in the bottom of the box and put two heat lamps in it and it works great for drying out the used desiccant.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:05 PM
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It is all about how dry and clean your air is! The cleaner and dry... the longer consumable life. 60% seems a little high. You have to weight the cost of the dryer vs. the added consumable life!
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:54 PM
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Mr. Ray is 100% right. I have had an electrode blow a hole through the side of the nozzle because of a little moisture problem I had. But because I have always had the canister type dryer I couldn't tell a big enough difference to justify the cost of a refrigerated dryer. It may well work as well as the canister, in which case your cost is $700 initially with the only ongoing cost being electricity versus the initial cost of the canister being $200 and a case of the desiccant being another $200...If the cheap(est) refrigerated unit really works, I would make the change. Clinton, you have me considering this...I just don't like being the guy with mud on his face...Does anyone else use one of these refrigerated units without the desiccant?
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:20 PM
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A lot of my customers use a 3 stage filter system (oil, air, water) at the back of their machine. it cost about 40 bucks!
The longer your lines are... the more moisture/condensation you will encounter. At lot of your consumable life will depend on your plasma! The age and model.
Older plasma units do not have as good consumable life as the newer units to. The cut quality is a lot better on the new units too! Your money might be better spent on a new plasma... than on a ref. dryer system for your old one!
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