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sharpscriber 07-15-2011 01:02 AM

Before power tools
I know of hand riveting being used to fasten metal together but what else was there before we had electricity and drill motors? I remember seeing work that used a ton of pan head screws everywhere and I kept thinking how time consuming that much have been to punch a hole with your awl or drill and screw in the pan heads in by hand.

Were there any other ways they used to fasten?

roofermarc 07-15-2011 08:20 AM

Fastening methods
On that church steeple that I have the pics of, they used a small copper nail and bent it over to hold everything together, as unbelievable as it sounds it's true. I guess they punched a hole or drilled it I have no idea. The nails aren't everywhere but are in a few spots.

sharpscriber 07-15-2011 12:09 PM

I am guessing also that maybe a hole with solder to the piece in back. I'm aware of locking seams and stuff. Now we have spotwelders along with screw guns. But before electricity?

ncscribe 05-07-2012 09:21 PM

Single seaming and double seamingcome to mind also.

rothalion 06-01-2012 12:36 PM

Soldering I suppose when the material called for it. I actually keep two old windy hand drills in my box and use them now and again. They eat right through 24 ga. stainless steel. And come in handy if you battery is gone and you only have a few holes.

sharpscriber 06-04-2012 05:02 AM

Are those hand drills that old? I've got a few of those. Once I worked in an old telephone exchange relay building and saw hundreds of pan head screws put in tight down in a long wide but tight shaft and I had to remove all of them by hand. Boss's orders. Made me think of how it was back then without power equipment. Scratch awls and hammers.

roofermarc 06-04-2012 06:09 AM

What is a "windy hand drill" Is that what they call a brace? I have two Yankee drills, you cant hardly use them though.

sharpscriber 06-04-2012 07:48 AM

It's an egg beater with only one bit though. I collected them at some point in time. Rivet and soldering would have needed those maybe, especially on boilers and locomotives and olden time stuff that doesn't want to exist any more. Saw the news that the world is maybe having a slow down. Go back to hand tools and forget the energy wastage.

rothalion 06-07-2012 08:38 PM

Egg beater, thanks great description Sharpscriber. Sorry Roofermarc I couldn't recall the proper name. I've had mine for years. What I truly want is one that you can change the gears on to adjust the torgue. Hard to come by though. I've also seen them a couple feet tall with a sort of strap on top for your knee. I figure they must have had hand punches, also like a Whitney Punch. I wonder if they used a punching process similar to what a modern Clinching machine would perform?

The_Blacksmith 12-25-2012 03:50 AM

I know this is an older thread but...

I've formed many feet of 'standing seam', acme lock and even pittsburgh lock on a S/M brake. I've done quite a bit of it with turning tongs and bucking bar.


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